The8020lifestyleplan Reviews 

I joined in good faith although I thought it expensive. It seemed like a realistic lifestyle. Unfortunately it didn't work at all for me, the team adjusted my calories but I just didn't lose inches or lbs or any other way you want to measure . I asked for a refund after 12 weeks and 3 payments plus joining fee. All I got was a message saying my membership had been cancelled. I have asked about the GUARANTEED refund again but hold out 0 hope.
I am genuinely saddened as I fell for the whole hype I suppose in desperation. I'm sure it works for many but they should honour the ones that tried but didn't get a result.

I started 15 weeks ago and I can only praise the help I got. I. Tried every diet supplements in the world and this is the only plan that really helps you with the mindset. 80/20 has really helped I am a dress size smaller and I feel more confident each day. Eat more move more

I have had a few problems I have emailed the team they came back really quickly and put me at ease.

The academy is a great support for me I have had no issues I am a quiet person who keeps them selfs to them selfs

Dan Lois Karen Liam are amazing really helpful and supportive

The pod cast are separated but there great to watch I have learnt so much from Dan and Carla’s pod cast about mind set and how to deal with my emotions better

Dan your amazing and your honest and I appreciate your help

£25 per month to help me keep track and get the long life support I need is worth every penny in my eyes

I was so excited to find a plan where I would get so much personalised content (which is what is advertised). However upon getting the weekly emails and joining the "academy" I found it to be so much less than promised.
For £25 a month you too can have access to a YouTube video (which is free and available online) and a Facebook group for people to have the content controlled and monitored where if you ask for help or have a question you are directed to a facebook/tiktok/Instagram live, where you won't be noticed because the "team" sit around drinking and complimenting eachother.

After 16 weeks, the plan has not worked for me, I emailed three times during the plan and asked within the "academy" for help, each time being directed to the same email address and having my post then deleted from the Facebook group. When then asking to cancel my plan, I was told in a very passive aggressive manner that it must be that I've done something wrong because if I was following the plan then there is no way it could have failed me. (Yeah, okay)

The level of support you get is very dependent on your own social media following, if you are a big account on Instagram or tiktok then you will get noticed and help. If you are a normal customer paying the same or more than any of these people then your emails will be ignored and comments on live "q&a" will be passed off.

Overall a very negative experience and then to be blamed for failure at the end of it after having reached out and asking for help.. not professional at all.

Edit: Im afraid I am not prepared to supply my personal details to this company given their history of abuse of people who have spoken out before. My review is first hand, and still stands. Yeah. not so good. The concept is great. I went in with my eyes wide open. Alot of the info is easily accessible elsewhere - but I do happen to think the bite size chunks and learning new things week on week is really useful as tool in itself. I paid the full 16 weeks - did I think the materials worth it? Maybe.. some was a little unprofessional and out of date but on the whole it was at least comprehensive - may be a little too much at times. Sadly the fantastic foundations are totally cancelled out by Mr Wheeler. Being a survivor of an abusive relationship at the hands of a narcissist, his behaviour triggered me daily. It has become increasingly unruly. I swear like a navvy at the best of times, but referring to customers, even if they are ex customers, as c*nts, is off the wall. I agree about SW and WW being toxic, but when the response is consistently toxic it dilutes the argument. Name calling, blaming and victim mentality are all traits of the narcissist. Sadly I have seen these displayed just a little too often. The most recent stunt using another popular tik tokker was genuinely ill thought through and even for a moment after that those who were offended were blamed and called names. I am genuinely sorry that this did not work out for me, but my morals and my judgement outweigh the benefits and as such I am no longer a member.

I joined this plan after seeing Dan Jones on tik tok and the support he was getting from Dan and the team. I am in a very similar position at over 35 stone and been in hospital several times with cellulitis. The plan itself works as it’s basic calorie deficit but little did I know it was only Dan Jones that was getting this kind of help. I tried to ask for more help on the lives and was either ignored or given a two min quick answer then dismissed. The most recent you tube post stating in the title that “Dan Jones Died” was nothing more than click bait, not considering how this would affect others followed by a “fake” argument for views. I stated my upset on the Facebook page and was made to feel stupid and that I had emotional issues!!

I have now cancelled my membership and a week on am still really upset about the way I have been treated and misled. I’m now back to square one!

Was initially very excited to join this plan. However, the extent it changed during my time was huge.
The weekly videos are out of date, and the content seems to go downhill as the weeks go on.
The new lives are a chit chat, and irrelevant. More like an ego boost for the hosts.
The 'supportive' facebook group, is only supportive if you say the right things; content is very closely controlled, and any concerns raised are often labelled as negativity and deleted, or the user is blocked.
Feedback or criticism is not welcomed or accepted, and the giver gets a great deal of backlash.
In addition, the comments Ive seen on social media are shocking, especially the language.
All very unprofessional. Would not recommend.

Dan was amazing in the early days. Now, he just has a massive ego and just wants to get famous. Unfortunately, he’s gaining popularity from being a horrible person.

He basically rewords James’ Smith’s emails - in a worse way. The live podcasts are awful. Nobody cares about the 2-3 people just babbling on about idle nonsense.

I ordered Dan’s book almost 2 years ago at a cost of £50. I have received the ‘free pdf’ that you get as part of the order, but nothing else. Surely, as a gesture, you would think that he would reach out and offer a hoodie, a refund minus the pdf cost or a refund. £50 is a lot to me so I’m extremely unhappy to be out of pocket :(

UPDATE - Upon requesting a refund via email, my email address got blocked. May be time to start legal proceedings to get my money back! As you can see, my post has been verified (after Dan tried to make out that I was fake).

The plan itself is great, but you don't need all the other pointless egotistical nonsense that you get when you join this plan. The macros and calories you receive can be worked out on your own, and thats pretty much all you get, as well as a bombardment of emails each week promoting the Dan Wheeler show and another podcast. There is a cloud of toxic positivity and narcissism that stagnates within the plan, despite the constant claims of mental health promotion, which only seems to work in one direction. Heavily disappointed as the plan had the potential to be something great, but fell very short early on.

Edited 07.09.2021 response to
Reply from The8020lifestyleplan
A day ago
Hi Julie

Sadly we cannot offer refunds if you have nearly lost motivation or cannot connect with the plan, we did offer a 7 day trial at this time so you could of seen what we offer to make sure it was a good fit for yourself.

I have never mentioned a refund and I signed up after a trial period and it soon went down hill from there I was a paying member that's why my review was verified. Maybe they should have actually read my review
Rather than clutching at straws totally unprofessional

My previous review was flagged by the 80/20 lifestyle plan as have all the negative reviews but mine has been removed due to breech of guidelines not sure why possibly because I mentioned names but it was an honest opinion of my experience following Dan wheeler and his 80/20 lifestyle plan.
So I'll try again with less personal details

The 80/20 plan is a DIY plan once you receive your calorie and macros your left to your own devices.
The Facebook group you join is full of support from fellow members but sometimes feels like a Dan wheeler fan and advertisment page rather than a support community which felt very manipulated on several occasions.
Dan doesn't take criticism at all well which causes him to react in an unprofessional manner calling people names and accusing them of trolling this was also done within the Facebook group on several occasions leaving me feeling extremely uncomfortable as members take his word as gospel
The plan videos which are sent don't last long and if you have been on a life long diet most of it is stuff you already know. I wanted to learn more about the mindset but once you join the videos and some print outs are the only mindset tools there is as the psychotherapist is no longer a member of the team and doesn't seem to have been replaced.
I requested to leave at wk 10 because I had lost motivation with the plan within a month but stick it out until week 10 when I really didn't know what I was paying for and could no longer connect with the plan or any of it and requested to leave.
There are a lot of people on his lives and podcast that will rave about the 80/20 plan alot of these are employed by him so that's part of their job.
I just felt after the hype on tictok joining the plan bought me down to earth with a bump.
I personally can not recommend the 80/20 plan

After seeing great things from Dan Wheeler about this wonderful new plan , I signed up - from week one I was bombarded with email after email one night receiving 5 , I started the plan I followed Dan on all social media and slowly become to very uncomfortable with the way in which he was using social media and Tiktok people and forgetting about the 80/20 members who had the standard plan
I felt the constant slander for other weight loss and lifestyle plans was shocking , also using people as sharkbate ! , I was sadden to see his vicious responses from Dan to people who no longer wanted to be on plan , this gave me no confidence in him and his team as a company ,
I cancelled my subscription
I unsubscribed from emails
I can honestly say that this is a shocking way to run a company and would advise people to think carefully before joining

edit :- 29:07 I don’t appreciate being called a troll by the academy attendees because I have posted an honest review

A word or warning for anyone looking to use these services please don’t … I did the free 7 day trial was harassed throughout to sign up and many inappropriate emails received. I questioned something about the plan which seemed contradictory and my question was deleted and I was immediately blocked. Highly unprofessional and not really interested in helping people it really is all about money.

Edited in response to 8020 answer : throughout the entire time I have followed 8020 (probably well over a year now) there are always promises of new content, updated websites and none of it was delivered at all. Thankful that I didn’t actually pay as really it’s just a Facebook group which I appear to still be in and a site with old content out of date and incorrect advice. There are so many better options out there with apps, up to date interactive websites with much more support and correct advice for far less a month.

Hi sorry I can't reply directly to your response so this is the only way I could do it
I never mentioned the recent videos in my review so not sure why they were mentioned. I did think the one with Carla upset was a big mistake though, it was deliberately done to deceive people no matter what the reasons were. And yep I did see Dan's reply in a video which when people disagreed with him in the comments he then went on to delete the whole video along with the previous ones, which he does quite often when people don't just accept what he says.
As for giving you my order number so you can look into it, there would be no point as this is the response I got when I wanted to cancel my membership

Hi Jayne,



As you have cancelled your payment details we have therefore deleted you from our records.



Regards



Nicola

So there would be nothing for you to look up apparently. I really do hope it can be turned around, I worry for the people he has now employed as they depend on him for their income, so he should remember that before behaving the way he does

Once again been made change certain words from my review due to DW complaining about them!(word similar to tully)maybe instead of trying to get us real reviews changed possibly work on your full attitude towards women!

DONT BELIEVE NEW POSITIVE REVIEWS AS THESE HAVE BEEN PAID FOR BY DAN!!! CON ARTIST WHO TAKES DRUGS AND ADVOCATES TAKING THEM ON HIS PLAN!! I have now also been hounded to provide my order number etc JUST TAKE CRITICISM AND CHANGE YOUR WAYS DAN!! I will not be providing any details to 80/20 as I didn’t receive help when I most needed it so why care now...oh that’s right you have been found out!!!!*******Waste of money £25 a month for nothing!! Dan Wheeler really abused my mental health by hounding me and saying bad things to me(not allowed to use the word like Tully)and is a very nasty man, he claims to have had mental health issues in the past but is happy to hound n abuse others!! Save ur money and don’t line his pockets; I signed up for a month got no support or help so basically paid for nothing!!

The plan itself works but it's not a plan that is unique it is simple method find your calories amount using simple free calculators on Google walk 10000 steps a day (or gradually increase your steps to reach the 10000 a day) and eat 80% wholesome food and 20% can be treats (within your calories) the rest of what you pay for is the "academy" which is a cult like group of Dan's army where if you dare to be negative or question anything you get called a troll, or blocked and made to feel foolish. You get no feedback from your weekly submission of measurements even if it increases there is no feedback no support. It's the "academy " that you get support from which are not qualified although have good intentions they are customers just like you.

The biggest issue I have is the narcissistic behaviour of the owner he is an expert gaslighter which triggered my red flags quite early on. If you speak out about anything he attacks and makes you question your mental health. He has a god like complex.

As someone who has been hurt in the past by men like this I quietly exited the plan but I am relieved that more people are speaking out because it is a toxic environment.

Updated with Reply to 8020 - I will not be giving my order number I don't need any other response or action taken on my account. I do not want to be hounded by email, text, phone calls and social media attacks like has been done to so many people who dared to speak out.

Update : I am not prepared to give email or telephone numbers and I am no longer part of the plan so there would be nothing for you to look up. I do not wish to be hounded by email, social media or phone, like others have been. Please, please take on board what these reviews are telling you. Instead of creating a healthy environment, it’s been turned into one of fear. This can be fixed, but it needs acting upon before it’s too late.

I joined up for 80/20 after seeing Dan on TikTok. He seemed straight talking and his thoughts about calorie deficit and moving more, made great sense.
After joining the “academy” (which is just a private FB group) it became quickly apparent that this wasn’t a business that was being run at all professionally. I sent off a form and got a calorie allowance back, which was no different to the maintenance calories that had been worked out on an online TDEE calculator. Each week, I’ve had an email about sending off measurements and an email containing outdated videos and worksheets. And that is all the support that is given from the plan - all of this information is available online.
No one is allowed to react negatively to anything that goes on in the FB group, if you do, you’re removed and blocked and then slated all over social media. The mindset part of this plan, SHOULD work but the toxicity that is being bred by the guy running the show is just dreadful and his latest stunt has cost him a lot of support. Click bait headlines in emails, followed by an apparently staged argument with a client’s wife, all to manipulate his audience to try and prove a point about behaviour has left an incredibly sour taste in many people’s mouths. And now, all evidence of it has been removed from the public domain. I question the integrity of the whole business and the people who are running it.
Lives in the FB group and the podcast descend into teenage chaos with nothing of any real value gained from them. I’m not adverse to using profanities in my daily life but I wouldn’t dream of it in my work capacity. Nor would I use the slurs I’ve heard used against other people who’ve spoken up against Dan. I don’t need to write them here - plenty of people have mentioned them in their reviews.
The 80/20 idea is great and does work. But if you’re after support and a safe place to take your healthy lifestyle journey in, then I’d avoid this plan. I’m disappointed in myself for falling for the spiel in the beginning because if I’d just done a bit more research, I’d have found the info and support is available for free online and there are plenty of social media accounts who provide good, solid support for people.
Think twice before signing up for this plan, the negative reviews are accurate.

I wish I had done more research before signing up to this plan. While the theory behind ir works in creating a calorie deficit, encouraging movement and focusing on the mindset part, had I known the type of person leading this programme was I wouldn't have ever joined. The fact that an adult man thinks its acceptable to use the language that he does in such as the r word in such a casual way is beyond me. The bullying and harrassing of people that provided constructive criticism or someone who is having a bad time with the plan reaching out for support on the academy is disgusting. I accidentally clicked on an Instagram poll once disagreeing with what he was saying and he made a story calling me out which honestly made me feel so bad at the time. People need to be held accountable and the person who runs this brand is most definitely one of them.

Edit - it won't let me reply to the comment below. I don't see why you need to identify which I am as my account will have no bearing on my review above. Its inexcusable to use the r word in any circumstance as is the bullying and harassing online - with a platform of thousands I hope it is taken into consideration going forward as it is just hurtful.

Please do not give money to the 80/20 lifestyle plan business!!!

I, like many others, was fooled into thinking that Dan Wheeler was a straight talking guy with plenty of knowledge and a desire to help people. What I have now learnt is that none of this "expert knowledge" is really used to help people within the Facbook Academy that he has set up. His lives are unhelpful and is just an hour of off track discussions between his employees and immature jokes.

He has no desire to help anybody bar one and that is his project, Dan Jones. This helps him create the illusion on social media that he is this amazing, giving and caring person. That same person is happy to use extreme words to describe people ranging from r*t*rd to c***ts

Don't be fooled into believing that your money is going to get you any support. All you'll be doing is further fund a God complex in someone who believes that it is acceptable to pretend someone had died for clickbait.

I may have lost centimetres but ultimately, I lost respect for not only Dan, but the people who still believe he can do no wrong in this world. That being said, many paying members of the Facebook Academy can also be so lovely and supportive.

Please do not sign up. Do your research and find your correct calorie deficit. All of the info is readily available online and I can guarantee you that you will learn more doing that than paying for 16 weeks of nonsense.

I joined 8 weeks ago as liked the concept that you can "move more, eat more". I followed the plan to a T and although my progress was very slow I put that down to not having too much to lose. However, when I did reach out for support, my emails went unanswered which was really disappointing. I feel the help is there for the people that have a lot of cms to lose, they are the ones with the big weekly losses and those of us that struggle and are quiet in the background are not really part of "DansArmy". The daily lives always went off into a tangent about things not related to group or even the questions that were asked. For this reason I had to stop watching them. If you don't work and have all day to sit and listen to non constructive conversation then you might enjoy them. On one particular live when Dan was on his own his discussion ended up being about his political views and his Non-Vax opinion, neither of which I personally wanted to listen to. I've never really liked Dan as a person and his approach to his business, full of foul language and self love but I thought I would try and stick with it. After the no support email my final straw was the fake video of is his latest pet project that is FatDan and his family. Apparently the video was just click bate. This is not for me but if you have a lot of weight/cms to lose then it will no doubt work for you.

I joined about 11 weeks ago and whilst I have lost centimetres, I could have done this without spending any money.

You can work out your own calories by joining the academy on the free trial or by looking for his calorie video on YouTube. No money required. Then you just drink some water and do some steps. No money required.

The videos are pretty boring and 2 of the three people on them aren’t even part of the plan any longer, which raises some questions.

The lives are fine if you can be bothered to listen to a group of people messing around. Lots of filler, very little extra help.

The exercise classes are fine again, but they aren’t worth the money on their own when there are plenty available on YouTube for free!

Dan himself has reached hero status with some members of the academy. It’s really embarrassing to read again and again. The group can be almost cult-like at times in this respect and I’d suggest avoiding for that alone. Honestly, it’s very awkward to see the worship and adoration going on.

Some recipes have been uploaded but they are few and far between - definitely nowhere near what was promised on sign up. There’s perhaps enough to get you through 4 or 5 days.

ALL negative posts on the Facebook group are deleted - people are obviously worried about being viewed as being negative by the powers that be as there’s often an ‘I’m not being negative’ clause added. This suggests that people are worried about speaking against the plan as they fear the reaction they might get.

Some people are picked out as ‘favourites’ and it’s really boring to see post after post about them. I’m sure they are nice people and I’m glad they are doing well but hearing about them isn’t what I signed up for.

To sum up, the plan works in that if you eat the given calories and do some walking, you’ll lose centimetres. As mentioned previously though, you don’t actually need to join to get this information and get started.

EDIT : I will not be sending any information as I know that Dan has been verbally aggressive with people who speak against him and I don’t fancy dealing with any of that. I have now left the plan.

Worth every penny. For £25 a month I have been educated in food nutrition and can join free exercise classes per day. Have the option for emailing in and being put in direct contact with an approved coach to help and advise further. Any questions in the live feed are answered. After many years of ‘Yo-yo’ dieting, I have finally found the right plan to suit my lifestyle. Thanks to Dan and the team for your constant support 👍👊💪